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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #30 on: 28 March, 2013., 17:17:34 CET »
Jedva čekam AHS Coven. Kathy Bates i jessica Lange skupa, kao vještice  :cerek:




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #31 on: 31 March, 2013., 21:06:05 CEST »
CW:
Hart of Dixie and Nikita: Will be renewed
Cult: will be cancelled
Beauty and the Beast: on track for renewal
The Carrie Diaries: set to be cancelled

FOX:
Glee: negotiating renewal
Touch & Goodwin Games: will be cancelled

NBC:
1600 Penn, Deception, Guys With Kids, The New Normal, Smash, Up All Night and Whitney: SET to be cancelled
Chicago Fire, Grimm, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, Parenthood and Revolution: locks for renewal
Community, Go On and Parks and Recreation: looking good for renewal

ABC:
Castle, Grey’s Anatomy, The Middle, Modern Family, Once Upon A Time, Revenge and Scandal: Locks for renewal
Last Man Standing, Malibu Country, Nashville and Suburgatory: set for renewal
Body of Proof and The Neighbors : on the bubble
Happy Endings and Red Widow: will be cancelled


CBS:
Criminal Minds and Two And A Half Men : will be renewed
Rules of Engagement and Vegas: will be cancelled
Golden Boy: on the bubble

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #32 on: 31 March, 2013., 22:14:17 CEST »
Ne bi ja baš stavio Nashville u "set for renewal"... Imali su 1.5 ovaj tjedan, a to je bila prva epka nakon dugog hiatusa... I sad će maratonski odradit sezonu bez pauze u ovim proljetnim mjesecima, ne bih se čudio da padnu na 1.2, 1.3 - a BOP se u zadnje vrijeme popravlja... Što je tužno, jer obožavam Nashville :(
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #33 on: 31 March, 2013., 22:19:22 CEST »
baš mi je drago za BATB
uz Arrow i bates Motel, najdraža nova serija  :)

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #34 on: 31 March, 2013., 23:14:25 CEST »
Parks je certain renewal, a Golden boy certain cancellation.




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #35 on: 02 April, 2013., 22:54:51 CEST »
Bravo’s fan favorite series and memorable characters return as the network confirmed new season orders for “Flipping Out” season seven, “Tabatha Takes Over” season five and “Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles” season six.  Celebrity chef Curtis Stone returns this summer to host “Top Chef Masters” season five alongside new head critic Gail Simmons and real estate magnates Ryan Serhant and Fredrik Eklund welcome up-and-coming agent Luis D. Ortiz in “Million Dollar Listing New York” season two, premiering Wednesday, May 8 at 10pm ET/PT.  Additionally, Bravo greenlit third seasons of  “Shahs of Sunset” and “The Real Housewives of Miami,” as well as second seasons of “Chef Roble & Co,” “Vanderpump Rules,” “Interior Therapy with Jeff Lewis,” which premieres Thursday, June 6 at 9pm ET/PT and “Don’t Be Tardy…,” which premieres  Tuesday, April 16 at 9pm & 9:30pm ET/PT.   All five of the Garden State ladies are back with “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” season five premiering Sunday, June 2 at 8pm ET/PT.  The network also picked up “The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” season four “The Real Housewives of Atlanta,” season six and “The Real Housewives of New York” season six.  Bravo’s Emmy-Award winning culinary competition series “Top Chef” will return for season 11 and The Emmy-nominated series, “Inside The Actors Studio,” continues its 19th season with the show’s milestone 250th episode taking a look back on the first 18 seasons of the series.  The fun also returns in late night with the live series, “Watch What Happens Live” returning for season ten with even more celebrity VIP’s, real-time viewer interaction and strong cocktails of pop culture.

Uf :cerek: :lol: :lol: SRAMOTA me priznat koliko od navedenih gledam :lol:

Al nema Kathy :( NAdam se da je to zato što je tek sad završila... :ne zna: Jer nema većine serija koje se trenutno emitiraju (Rachel Zoe Project, Millionaire Matchmaker, LA Shrinks, Married to Medicine,...) :ne zna:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #36 on: 02 April, 2013., 23:33:35 CEST »
Ja samo RHOBH. :rofl:

Medicina je navodno propala.. a i Kathy se navodno ne piše najbolje. :(




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #37 on: 02 April, 2013., 23:35:57 CEST »
MTM je imao 0.9 A18-49 rating za premijeru, nije baš DOA :D
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #38 on: 04 April, 2013., 00:04:56 CEST »
Happy Endings may get a happy ending, after all. The cult-hit comedy, currently in its third season at ABC, might wind up at USA Network if the broadcast network chooses not to pick it up for Season 4.
Sony TV, which produces Endings, has approached a few networks about continuing the Cul-De-Sac Crew’s shenanigans; our sister site Deadline reports that USA Network has expressed interest.
The news is a welcome surprise for fans of the quirky ensemble series, which was exiled to Fridays — often a harbinger of cancellation — last month. Its first Friday broadcast drew 3 million total viewers and a 0.9 rating with the 18-49 demo (and its second that evening fared worse), falling below its average Tuesday-night numbers.





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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #39 on: 04 April, 2013., 00:36:50 CEST »
USA   :heart: Wait, koji je to kanal USA?  :p Nevermind.

Ozbiljno: mislio sam da će TBS pokupiti Happy Endings, pogotovo kad su i Cougar Townu dali 5. sezonu.

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #40 on: 04 April, 2013., 02:18:23 CEST »
I'm all for it, samo da se ne petljaju u kreativni proces :facepalm: Iskreno, USA bi mi bio zadnji izbor za novu meežu za seriju :lol: Al ajd :D Nije da mi je najjasnije kako im se HE uklapa u roster, oni ipak pucaju na stariju publiku... Mislim, imaju syndication prava na NCIS :rofl: Možda spare s reprizama MF-a, ko zna :D
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #41 on: 04 April, 2013., 04:03:38 CEST »
I ja sam se totalno iznenadio kad sam procitao USA al dok god nastave snimati i prikazivati onakav HE kakav svi volimo, nije me briga :rofl: Ionako nakon Monka nista nisam gledao s te mreze (zapravo jesam jedn sezonu Royal Painsa :rofl:)

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #42 on: 06 April, 2013., 23:17:03 CEST »
Počelo je, počelo :klap: :klap: :D

It’s the first week of April, and we’re kicking off our annual Pilot Buzz series. Keeping with tradition, the first list only includes a limited number of projects that have been garnering strong early buzz as the vast majority of pilots are still filming or going through post-production. So we will omit those on which there is no conclusive feedback yet and will reserve judgement on those that we hear not so good things about until next time.

If the rather dull Pirates Of The Caribbean Disney ride spawned a successful movie franchise, could the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad do the same on the small screen? Despite taking jabs for its origins and casting mostly unknowns, Big Thunder is a surprising early leading contender on the drama side at ABC. Not so surprising is the very strong early showing of the McG-directed Romeo and Juliet-esque soap Venice, with another soapy drama, Betrayal, and the horror take on Once Upon A Time, Gothica, also drawing some early attention, while Reckless and The Returned are emerging as dark horses. Then there is a drama pilot with a zero buzz that is all but assured a spot on the schedule, Joss Whedon’s S.H.I.E.L.D. Why isn’t anyone talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.? Because virtually noone has seen it, with Marvel and Whedon keeping the footage under lock and key.

On the comedy side, the David Spade starrer Bad Management is very hot. Adam Goldberg’s How The Hell Am I Normal also has momentum, as does the Cullen Bros. project, with people singling out the great comedic performance of star James Caan, and early pickups Trophy Wife starring Malin Akerman and Super Fun Night starring Rebel Wilson, who is breaking out in a big way and is hosting the MTV Movie Awards next weekend.

In the past two years, Fox had a clear early comedy favorite with New Girl and The Mindy Project, respectively, both of whom rode the momentum to series orders. This time around, it is a male-centered half-hour that is getting the strongest yearly buzz, the Andy Samberg-starring Mike Schur/Dan Goor cop comedy. Since the three comedy series Fox has renewed for next season all have female skew, Raising Hope and especially New Girl and The Mindy Project, the Schur/Goor project could be a potential companion for the male-centered Dads, which already has a six-episode order and is coming off a strong table read. Given its pedigree — Family Guy and American Dad creator Seth MacFarlane is executive producer, some suggest Dads may break into Fox’s Sunday animated comedy block the way Malcolm In The Middle launched behind The Simpsons. There are two other male-skewing pilots that are getting some buzz, Army-based Enlisted and dating comedy I Suck At Girls, which stars Christopher Meloni. On the female/family comedy side, Us And Them (aka Friends And Family) and To My Future Assistant are getting solid buzz, with The Gabriels also a possibility.

Drama-wise, Rake, starring Greg Kinnear and directed by Sam Raimi, seems to be the one to beat in the early going, with Gang Related and The List, both headlined by Latino actors, probably competing for a slot (Gang Related seems to have a slight edge at the moment), with Sleepy Hollow gaining momentum and Boomerang looking solid. It’s too early for the special-effects-enhanced Inhuman, but it comes from the Fringe duo of J.H. Wyman and J.J. Abrams, which gives it heft.

With CBS recently renewing 18 programs (and two more pending, Two And A Half Men and Criminal Minds), the network has very little shelf space for next season. The competition is shaping up to be fierce on both the comedy and drama side. I hear top CBS brass are particularly happy with this year’s crop of half-hour pilots. Chuck Lorre’s pilot Mom, starring Anna Farris, is as close to a sure thing as they come, and that’s just on paper as the project is yet to go into production, awaiting for Lorre to wrap his three CBS series. Also all but assured at least one spot on the schedule is Greg Garcia, who has two pilots, the recently completed single-camera Super Clyde, which is getting good buzz, and a multi-camera pilot, which is yet to film but boasts top-notch cast led by Will Arnett. After once again sticking to all-multi-camera series orders last May, CBS is expected to back up its statements of commitment to the single-camera genre with 1-2 single-camera series pickups. In addition to Super Clyde, other early single-camera standouts include the Robin Williams-starring Crazy Ones, and Irish family comedy The McCarthys, while ensemble Friends With Better Lives is strong on the multi-camera side. Because of their very late casting, there is no feedback yet on the single-camera Rottenberg/Zuritsky and Tad Quill, but with Debra Messing and Matthew Broderick as the leads, they are intriguing.

Five of the six CBS comedies currently on the air are coming back (There was talk that the sixth, Rules Of Engagement, might do one final short order but that now appears very unlikely), which leaves only one half-hour opening on the schedule. With so many half-hour contenders, CBS will likely add another comedy hour after contemplating the idea but ultimately passing on it last season. The question is whether CBS will expand its Thursday block to two-hours and move Person Of Interest or open a block elsewhere, something that has proven challenging in the past.

On the drama side, the NCIS: LA spinoff has got to be a top contender. The backdoor pilot episode was received OK, and CBS so far has picked up every spinoff from one of its crime franchises to series. Also very strong is Beverly Hills Cop. I hear Eddie Murphy killed it with the reprisal of his signature role as Axel Foley in the pilot, while Brandon T. Jackson is still coming into his own as a leading man. I’m sure CBS would want more of Murphy on the show. The rest of the drama field is pretty tight. There is strong early buzz for the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced conspiracy thriller Hostages, with most of the other pilots also very much in the running, including gothic psychological thriller Second Sight, which has Carol Mendelsohn and Michael Cuesta behind it, Intelligence, which stars Josh Holloway and Marg Helgenberger, and Backstrom, whose script was a favorite of CBS brass.

A surprising early drama frontrunner at NBC — the comic book-driven The Sixth Gun, which has an unconventional premise (supernatural Western, mythical guns) and had difficulty casting some of the lead roles. But it has top showrunner Carlton Cuse and a rumored $10+ million budget. NBC also seems to be going back to the well, betting on the producer who delivered its only new scripted hit this season, Revolution‘s J.J. Abrams, with his new NBC pilot, the high-concept Believe, drawing early attention. Also solid early on is the James Spader-Megan Boone starrer The Blacklist. NBC brass also appear committed to legal drama I Am Victor starring John Stamos, which underwent a behind-the-scenes shakeup, with executive producers Katie Jacobs and Daniel Rappaport exiting. Also in the running is the Rand Ravich action thriller.

NBC already has one new comedy series set for next season, the untitled Michael J. Fox vehicle, which has a 22-episode order. Another half-hour fronted by a well known sitcom star, the untitled Sean Hayes pilot, is getting strong early buzz, along with the Krysten Ritter-starring Assistance. Abrams and Hayes may get more good news soon as there is speculation that Revolution and the Hayes-produced Grimm, along with The Voice, may get early renewals next week. Also said to have support at the network are school parent comedy The Gates, the multi-cultural Welcome To The Family, the Bill Lawrence-produced Undateable and About A Boy. It’s too early for the Lorne Michaels-produced John Mulaney pilot, which just finished casting. With The Office gone, NBC is expected to add a new show to Greg Daniels’ plate. He has 2 pilots, the untitled Robert Padnick, which was very strong at the script stage but hit some bumps in the casting process, and Craig Robinson projects, one of which will likely get on the schedule.

CW brass seem very pleased with the Vampire Diaries planted spinoff The Originals, which is now shooting, so it appears a lock for next season’s schedule. The Originals also is a marketing dream as its three stars are established Vampire Diaries cast members who have built-in following. Of the network’s traditional pilots, the futuristic The 100 is very hot. Also getting early buzz is the close encounters of a fifth kind love story Oxygen. The new Selection pilot is not a lock yet but is considered a significant improvement over last year’s pilot. Mary Queen of Scots period piece Reign is getting points for its visuals (Both The Selection and Reign are filmed in Europe — in Hungary and Ireland, respectively)
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #43 on: 06 April, 2013., 23:31:30 CEST »
Ja ne mogu vjerovat da je već kraj... ko da je sezona počela jučer.  :lol:




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #44 on: 06 April, 2013., 23:36:02 CEST »
Ja ne mogu vjerovat da je već kraj... ko da je sezona počela jučer.  :lol:

Yup :rofl: Meni je u glavi kao da je listopad upravo završio :zubo:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #45 on: 08 April, 2013., 18:28:15 CEST »
So far, three of the broadcast networks, CBS, Fox and the CW, have awarded early renewals to their strongest series, while ABC and NBC are yet to make any moves on that front. There is speculation that NBC may jump in the fray with early pickups to some of its strongest series. Among those rumored to get an early jump on next season are the network’s flagship reality series The Voice, top scripted series Revolution and solid Friday performer Grimm, which also received an early second-season order last year. The renewals could come as early as tomorrow, following the latest set of ratings for The Voice and Revolution, both of which made a strong return to the schedule two weeks ago. Meanwhile, Grimm just logged another finish as the top-rated scripted series on Friday. I hear a deal for a second-season renewal of Revolution was put in motion several months ago when NBC reduced the first-season order to the futuristic drama by two episodes. Meanwhile, I hear Grimm is already preparing for third season, releasing a large number of low- and mid-level writers early than normal in preparation for staffing. Beyond those three series, also certain to return at NBC are comedy Parks & Recreations, which also is reading writers for next season, and Chicago Fire, whose pickup may once again be tied to that for NBC’s other Dick Wolf-produced drama, Law & Order: SVU, which is looking to re-sign star Mariska Hargitay. This year, there may be another wrinkle to the Chicago Fire-SVU renewal related to the planned Chicago Fire spinoff. Elsewhere at NBC, Parenthood also appears on track for a renewal, with Go On and The New Normal looking hopeful after getting a boost from the return of The Voice. Midseason comedy 1600 Penn and sophomore drama Smash are dead, while comedy series Whitney and Guys With Kids are heavily on the bubble. There has been speculation that, like last year, NBC may opt to keep one multi-camera comedy for next season, with Guys having a slight edge. It is produced by soon-to-be-host of The Tonight Show Jimmy Fallon.


Aaaaaaaaaaaa jebaćudedlajnumajku ako mi sad daje lažnu nadu :eek: :cerek: :cerek: :lol: New Normal :cerek: :cerek:

Ako je to istina, onda utorak ostaje identičan onome od jesenas... Go On i TNN ne funkcioniraju bez Voicea, a Parenthood nema smisla micat kad TNN nije nikakav lead-in :zubo:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #46 on: 08 April, 2013., 21:45:23 CEST »
Ajme da bar... iako je finale TNN funkcioniralo i kao kraj serije.  :cerek:




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #47 on: 08 April, 2013., 22:43:53 CEST »
Slažem se, baš je bilo kao jedan final touch na cijelu tu priču o surogatu i osnivanju obitelji :D Ali imaju definitivno još materijala za barem jednu sezonu sa "new baby in the house" pričama :D
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #48 on: 09 April, 2013., 10:24:09 CEST »
The CW‘s midseason drama The Carrie Diaries wraps its 13-episode freshman season tonight. With its pedigree as an offshoot from one of most recognizable media franchises of the last 20 years, Sex And The City, it was expected to be a slam-dunk. Instead, Carrie Diaries started slow and is finishing its run on the bubble. But while its TV ratings alone would’ve likely pushed the series toward cancellation, Carrie Diaries‘ very strong online play including on Hulu is making the renewal a possibility. What’s more, besides the three shows the CW already cancelled this season — veteran 90210 and freshmen Emily Owens MD and Cult — there is a chance that the CW returns all of its other series including Hart Of Dixie, Nikita, Beauty And The Beast and Carrie Diaries in some shape or form, including limited runs. (The CW’s strongest series, Arrow, The Vampire Diaries and veteran Supernatural, were already renewed in February.)

More than other networks’ series, the online performance of CW shows, most of which are serialized, plays an important part in the net’s renewal decisions. After all, episode streaming provides a key revenue stream for the CW. In addition to commercial-loaded play on the the network’s website, the CW’s current series are available on Hulu under a five-year, $75-million deal, while previous seasons of CW shows are on Netflix as part of the eye-popping four-year, $1 billion pact the two companies inked in late 2011. The Netflix deal in particular represents an incentive for the CW to keep shows on the air longer because that raises interest in previous seasons as evident by such current serialized cable series as Breaking Bad, whose older seasons became blockbuster hits on Netflix.

Of the CW series whose fate has not been determined, Hart Of Dixie seems to be the closest to a sure thing. It is worth noting that last season, it was Hart Of Dixie‘s big online play that helped seal its second-season renewal. Perennial bubbler Nikita, a very modest performer on Friday night, also is eying a return for a fourth season. I hear creator Craig Silverstein, who has a new pilot, Turn, at AMC, has closed a deal for a final installment of 6-13 episodes. Giving Nikita a final chapter also falls into CW president’s Mark Pedowitz’s goal to give the network’s series with devoted followings a proper ending. Additionally, Nikita ranks as one of the CW’s top series on social media and, because of its brand, has been a strong international seller for producing studio Warner Bros TV.

As for Beauty And The Beast, it will likely return for a second season. The reboot of the 1980s series was a pet project for Pedowitz and one of the first titles he put in development after taking the reins of the network in 2011. Additionally, with 90210 gone, it is the only current CW series from CBS TV Studios. Set up as a partnership between CBS and Warner Bros with CBS TV Studios and Warner Bros TV as its scripted suppliers, there always is a political element in the CW’s pickup decisions as it tries to strike a balance between its two parents/studio partners.

As for what CW pilots are hot early on, check my weekend post PRIMETIME PILOT PANIC: The Early Buzz. Hint: The Vampire Diaries spinoff The Originals is likely marching to the fall schedule.


Carrie :cerek: :cerek:

:misli: 6-13 epizoda za Nikitu? A poanta toga je što točno? :misli: :zubo: Okej, fanovi će bit zadovoljni jer će dobit pošten završetak serije. Ali cmon, nijedna odluka o sudbini niti jedne serije nije donešena "zbog fanova", nego se mreže uhvate te priče čim se uklapa u obnovu, a kad je u pozadini neki drugi razlog... Nikita s 13 epizoda neće doć do sindikacije, ne kužim to nikako :ne zna:
Al ajd, recimo da su u pravu - onda BATB/Nikita/ANTM kombinacije petkom. TVD/Originals četvrtkom. Arrow/Supernatural srijedom. Ja bih spojio Dixie i Carrie utorkom, a ponedjeljak totalno renbrandao s dvije nove serije.
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #49 on: 09 April, 2013., 10:44:44 CEST »
Navijam za Carrie, al sumnjam...ima CW dosta potencijalno dobrih novih pilota ove godine.  :msn_P:

BATB  :rolleyes:




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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #50 on: 09 April, 2013., 11:04:58 CEST »
A imaju potencijalno tri mjesta na rasporedu i da obnove sve on the bubble serije... Jedan za Originalse + još dvije nove, a teoretski mogu naručit jednu ili dvoje još za midseason :D

Iako, TBH, koliko se ja sjećam, uvijek svake sezone kažemo kak CW dobro stoji s pilotima :lol: I onda iseru nešto što se zove Beauty and The Beast i Cult :lol:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #51 on: 09 April, 2013., 18:19:33 CEST »
kako se zgražate nad BATB a dam se kladit da niste pogledali ni 3 epizode  :kava:

carrie diaries će biti ukinuto sigurno, žao mi je samo fanova sto im daju laznu nadu s takvim smješnim člancima

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #52 on: 09 April, 2013., 19:42:52 CEST »
Evo onda ti pokreni TV sajt i napiši ekskluzivu da će TCD bit otkazan, a BATB ovjenčan s 67 Emmya :D
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #53 on: 09 April, 2013., 22:30:24 CEST »
možda baš i hoću, hvala na ideji  ;)

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #54 on: 10 April, 2013., 01:29:42 CEST »
Ne znam jel je negdje objaveno ali AMC planira spin off Breaking Bad pod nazivom Better call Saul :D
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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #55 on: 14 April, 2013., 05:58:29 CEST »
Stigao Primetime Pilot Panic #2 :D :cheer:

There is exactly one month to go until the broadcast networks begin to unveil their 2013-14 schedules to advertisers during premiere week. The first completed pilots have just started to come in, but we’re still a couple of weeks away from getting a more realistic picture of the this year’s pilot standings. For now, the info we share is based on buzz (thus the headline), and early insights from table reads, tapings, dailies and rough cuts. So don’t forget to pick up a large grain of salt before reading this. Now that you have been warned:

Chuck Lorre has done it again. Not that his clout alone was not enough to make his newest pilot Mom an instant frontrunner for the fall schedule the day it was greenlighted by CBS in December. Still, for CBS’ peace of mind, they were hoping the show would come together well. The network brass just got their wish with a rousing table read. The only remaining question surrounding Mom is where it will land on the schedule. I hear Monday 8:30 PM as a likely possibility. It makes a lot of sense, as How I Met Your Mother is already a strong launching pad that most recently helped establish 2 Broke Girls last year. Next season, the veteran comedy is expected to get extra sizzle from the fact that it is going into its final season that will finally reveal who the mother is. Plus, HIMYM and Mom will likely share sensibilities as they share the same director, Pam Fryman. As I wrote in my first early pilot buzz post, CBS brass appear very pleased with their comedy development this season, so if they pick up more multi-camera pilots, Friends With Better Lives is hot, and the Greg Garcia multi-camera pilot starring Will Arnett is coming off a solid table read. Competition is shaping to be as cutthroat on the single-camera side where CBS will likely opt for at least two shows to form a single-camera block. Greg Garcia’s Super Clyde was an early standout, with Crazy Ones boasting an in-form Robin Williams. The Bad Teacher remake and Irish American family comedy The McCarthys also seem to be in the mix, with the long-brewing Rob Greenberg pilot and Rottenberg/Zuritsky garnering positive very early buzz.

The picture is still pretty murky on the drama side where most pilots appear in contention ahead of delivery and testing. Beverly Hills Cop continues to look like a sure bet, with the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced conspiracy thriller Hostages also strong. While not as flashy as its predecessors and eliciting somewhat of a mixed reaction, the NCIS: LA spinoff still is considered a solid bet for the schedule. With so few slots available, it will be a fierce battle among the number of other contenders.

The Andy Samberg-starring Mike Schur/Dan Goor cop comedy has kept its momentum and is rumored for a possible early series order. Another male-centered comedy, which already received an early series order, Dads, had an imperfect first taping but Fox brass continue to be bullish on the project, which will undergo some tweaks. Two other male-skewing pilots also continue to get buzz, Army-based Enlisted and dating comedy I Suck At Girls starring Christopher Meloni. On the female/family comedy side, Us And Them and To My Future Assistant are possibilities.

Drama-wise, Rake, starring Greg Kinnear and directed by Sam Raimi, continues to look like a frontrunner. There is speculation that Gang Related and The List, both headlined by Latino actors, may be competing for a slot, with Alex Kurtzman/Bob Orci/Len Wiseman’s Sleepy Hollow possibly competing with Inhuman, from the Fringe duo of J.H. Wyman and J.J. Abrams. After a quiet start, Delirium, based on popular young-adult books, could be a dark horse though it skews a bit younger.

No major shakeups in the early standings at ABC where corporate synergy-friendly titles look strong. The first pilot from Disney-owned Marvel, Joss Whedon’s S.H.I.E.L.D., is all but assured a spot on the schedule. Big Thunder, based on the Disney ride, is a major contender. The Once Upon A Time spinoff, set in Wonderland, is expected to gain momentum as shooting on the short presentation just wrapped. Also hot is the McG-directed Romeo and Juliet-esque soap Venice, along with Gothic soap Gothica. Influence is getting notices for the chemistry between leads Christian Slater and Steve Zahn, with Betrayal, Reckless, The Returned and Murder In Manhattan also in contention. Doubt has been quiet because of its late casting but it comes from House creator David Shore.

On the comedy side, the Cullen Bros. project starring James Caan is red-hot. Also strong are Adam Goldberg’s How The Hell Am I Normal and the David Spade starrer Bad Management, while the untitled John Leguizamo comedy is gaining momentum. Several female-driven comedies are in the mix, including Keep Calm And Karey On, Middle Age Rage, early pickups Trophy Wife starring Malin Akerman and Super Fun Night starring Rebel Wilson as well as ensemble Mixology.

Will Julie Plec have three series on the air next season? Over the past week, The Tomorrow People, an adaptation of the cult British sci-fi series, has emerged as a major contender at the CW whose brass are also about to see a cut for The Vampire Diaries planted spinoff The Originals, which has enjoyed great buzz and is considered a shoo-in. Tomorrow People comes from Plec, executive producer of the already renewed Vampire Diaries and The Originals, and Greg Berlanti, who too is assured at least one series on the CW next season, the recently renewed Arrow. Another sci-fi-tinged drama, The 100, is also going strong. The royal Reign and The Selection are getting early praise for their visuals as both are filmed in Europe. (There was a production hiccup on Reign, chalked up to the long distance between Hollywood and Ireland where the pilot is filmed, which has been resolved.) But can CW pick up two projects about kings and queens? CW president Mark Pedowitz has long touted his idea for limited orders (Cult was the first series he ordered under that model). So if Reign and The Selection both pass muster, it is possible that they get limited-run orders to alternate in a “royal” time slot. With so many high-concept/fantasy/sci-fi pilots (human-alien love story Oxygen also is in the running), the “normal” Blink and Company Town look like the odd men out in the early going.

The network is moving full steam ahead with the planted Chicago Fire spinoff, which is now filming and is likely to factor into NBC’s series pickup decisions. The comic book-driven The Sixth Gun, executive produced by Carlton Cuse, continues to get strong early buzz, along with the James Spader-Megan Boone starrer The Blacklist. Also in contention is the Pete Berg-directed Bloodline, the J.J. Abrams-Alfonso Cuaron Believe, the Charlize Theron-produced Hatfields & McCoys, the untitled Rand Ravich project and early pickup After Hours. Despite the behind-the-scene shakeup with executive producer Katie Jacobs exiting, legal drama I Am Victor starring John Stamos continue to have supporters at NBC.

On the comedy side, the untitled Sean Hayes/Victor Fresco pilot continues to go strong. Also getting solid early buzz are the Bill Lawrence-produced Undateable and About A Boy. Additionally, talked about are family/parent comedies The Gates, Family Guide and Welcome To The Family and the Krysten Ritter-starring workplace vehicle Assistance. One of the two Greg Daniels-produced pilots — the untitled Robert Padnick project and the Craig Robinson project — is expected to go, with the Robinson one having a slight edge at the moment.

Let’s not forget that the broadcast networks are not the only ones that are currently assessing pilots. The two completed TNT pilots, popcorn dramas The Last Ship, produced by Michael Bay, and Legends, produced by Howard Gordon, both appear strong after some reshoots and are in contention for the network’s adventure-themed Sunday night anchored by Falling Skies.

The network appears happy with its first scripted pilot, Rita, based on a Danish series and starring Anna Gunn. Bravo had been planning to launch its first scripted series in the fourth quarter. It originally ordered two scripted pilots, with the second, The Joneses, not going forward.
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #56 on: 16 April, 2013., 13:12:46 CEST »
UPDATED: NBC is the only broadcast network to pre-empt its regular primetime lineup tonight for coverage of today’s deadly bombings at the Boston Marathon. The Brian Williams-anchored news special at 10 PM replaces an original episode of NBC’s freshman drama Revolution, which will now air next Monday. In addition to NBC News team’s desire to offer up-to-the-minute coverage of today’s events in NBC’s primetime on top of doing a wall-to-wall primetime coverage of the bombings on cable sibling MSNBC, I hear also influencing the pre-emption decision was the fact that the plot of tonight’s Revolution episode revolves around efforts to locate a nuclear bomb, a storyline deemed not appropriate in light of the Boston tragedy.

The pre-emption has serious repercussions for Revolution, sending NBC’s scheduling team scrambling for solutions. The problem is that, because of the drama’s late return to the schedule to coincide with the spring cycle of The Voice, Revolution was slated to air all 10 remaining new episodes with no interruption. Even before the pre-emption, the series was scheduled to run past the end of the season, with a season finale on May 27, five days past the end of the 2012-13 TV season. Tonight’s pre-emption would push the season finale even further into the summer, to June 3, something the broadcast networks are reluctant to do with high-end scripted series. Which opens up the other scenario — of double pumping Revolution with two originals in one week and keep the May 27 finale date. NBC is expected to make a decision which way to go by tomorrow. Either way, a disruption in the run of a serialized drama always has a detrimental effect.

Ma skratit će garant Ready to Love na sat vremena i stavit Revolution na utorak. A kao da je i bitno, serija još ima snage za max 13 dodatnih epizoda, gledajući gledanost. :ne zna:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #57 on: 17 April, 2013., 19:51:06 CEST »
Otkazan Cleveland, Da Vinci obnovljen. :D

The Cleveland Show will (allegedly) not go on.
Although a Fox rep insists no decision has been made, Cartoon Brew reports that Seth MacFarlane’s Family Guy spin-off has been cancelled after four seasons.
No word if Cleveland will be welcomed back into the Guy fold full-time.
Until an official confirmation comes through from Fox, Cleveland Show will remain “a long-shot” on TVLine’s Renewal Scorecard.


On the heels of its strong premiere last Friday, Da Vinci’s Demons, Starz’s new series from David Goyer, has been given a second season pickup. The historical fantasy about the young years of world’s greatest genius, Leonardo da Vinci (Tom Riley), was watched by more than 2.14 million total viewers during its opening weekend, making it the highest-rated premiere weekend ever for a Starz Original series. Starz had already made preparations for a potential second season, so production is expected to begin  pretty soon, next month, for a 2014 premiere. “’Da Vinci’s Demons’ serves up action, adventure and history in a unique and highly entertaining way that only someone like David S. Goyer can,” said Starz CEO Chris Albrecht. Added Goyer, “I’m excited that we get to continue the adventures of the world’s most eccentric and glorious polymath.”



I AMC je imao danas upfront prezentaciju :D Hrpa informacija stigla :D


AMC is making a slew of announcements at its upfront today. The cable network confirmed it will launch Talking Bad, a live companion after show to the final installment of Breaking Bad, a slew of scripted and unscripted projects in development, including Ballistic City and Ashland, an overall deal with writer Rolin Jones, premiere dates for several new and returning series and renewals of after show Talking Dead and reality series Comic Book Men and Freakshow. Here are details about AMC’s announcements:


TALKING BAD
AMC announces that it will air a special weekly, half-hour live after show to accompany the conclusion of its Emmy Award-winning series, “Breaking Bad.” “Talking Bad” will analyze and dissect every detail of “Breaking Bad’s” final eight episodes beginning Sunday, August 11. “Talking Bad” will air at 11pm ET/PT, and will be produced by Michael Davies’ Embassy Row with Sony Pictures Television serving as the studio partner.

OVERALL DEAL
AMC and writer Rolin Jones (Boardwalk Empire, Smash) announce an overall deal where Jones will be writing and executive producing projects specifically for the network.

 

SCRIPTED DEVELOPMENT
Note: All show titles are Working Titles

·         “Ballistic City”
Writer and Executive Producer: Travis Beacham (Clash of the Titans, Pacific Rim); Executive Producer and Director: Joseph Kosinski (Tron: Legacy, Oblivion), Executive Producers: Steve Golin, Bard Dorros and Michael Sugar of Anonymous Content (Oblivion)
 
A futuristic drama, “Ballistic City” is the story of a former cop thrust into the criminal underworld of a city housed in a generational space ship destined for an unknown world.
 
·         “King”
Executive Producers: Joe Scarborough (MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”) and Mika Brzezinski (MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”); Writers and Executive Producers: Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider (“Boardwalk Empire,” “The Sopranos”)
 
In the early 1960s, Floridian King Carmichael sells his soul to a corrupt, racist political machine to win a seat in the Senate. Having run as a segregationist, he is then tapped by Lyndon B. Johnson to champion civil rights in the South.
 
·         “Ashland”
Writer and Executive Producer: Allison Anders (Gas, Food, Lodging, Mi Vida Loca) and Terry Graham; Co-Executive Producer: Shana Eddy
 
Set in 1950 in Ashland, a tiny mining town in Kentucky, the Evans family has just relocated from California and the matriarch, Del, must hide her family’s secrets and find a way to support her three children at the height of the Red Scare.
 
·         “White City”
Executive Producer: Tom Freston (MTV); Writers and Co-Executive Producers: Nick McDonell  (Twelve, The Third Brother, An Expensive Education) and John Dempsey
 
The drama series follows western diplomats and journalists living in Afghanistan.
 
·         “Untitled Dahvi Waller Project”
Writer and Executive Producer: Dahvi Waller (“Mad Men”)
 
Set against the New York automobile industry of the 1920s, two brothers struggle to keep their family-run company afloat with a class-hopping Ziegfeld girl and the daughter of an English competitor blurring the line between love and business.
 
·         “Untitled Tim Lea/Anonymous Content Project”
Writer and Executive Producer: Tim Lea (“Flash Forward,” “The Riches”); Executive Producers: David Kanter and Matt DeRoss of Anonymous Content (Winter’s Bone, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind)
 
In America’s near future, one family is nearly torn apart in the conflict between a repressive government and the emerging movement for a second American Revolution.
 
·         “The Wall”
Writers and Executive Producers: Jim Keeble and Dudi Appleton (Thorne); Executive Producer: Red Arrow; Executive Producer: Alan Greenspan (Donnie Brasco, High Fidelity)
 
In 1960s Berlin, an American businessman becomes embroiled in a web of East-West espionage.


UNSCRIPTED DEVELOPMENT

Note: All show titles are Working Titles.

·         “Majority Rules”
Produced by ALL3 Media America; Executive Producers: Stephen Lambert, Eli Holzman and Aaron Saidman
 
“Majority Rules” is a docu-style, unscripted series that celebrates the American democratic process.   At the most grass root level, whether it’s an election for president of the birdwatchers club or a small-town city council, it will take a light-hearted look at democracy at work as the candidates vie for votes – because, in America — Majority Rules.
 
·         “All-Star Celebrity Bowling”   
Produced by High Noon Productions; Executive Producers: Chris Hardwick and Peter Levin of Nerdist; Executive Producers: Jim Berger and Patrick Jager from High Noon
 
“All-Star Celebrity Bowling” is the battle royale of celebrity talk shows – an unscripted, hilarious, tongue-in-cheek format that features celebrity bowling matches.  In each episode, celebrity teams compete to win big money for charity while letting loose and showing how even the highest profile stars can get competitive, while letting fans in on their lives and current projects.
 
·         “Cancelled”
Produced by Lion Television; Executive Produced by Tony Tackaberry and Allison Corn
 
“Cancelled” is a social experiment that will attempt to determine just how far people will really go for fame. Over the course of eight weeks, six households will be outfitted with cameras that will give them the chance to compete for ‘ratings’ that will determine which household has the most-watched reality show.
 
This news comes on the heels of AMC’s recent greenlight for the pilot of “Geek Out,” an unscripted project that takes the ultimate super-fan of a specific film, comic book, author, actor, athlete, musician, video game, or television series on an adventure that emotionally connects them to their obsession.  Ernest Cline, best-selling author, screenwriter and fanboy aficionado co-hosts and serves as executive producer with ThinkFactory Media’s (“Gene Simmons Family Jewels,” “Hatfields & McCoys”) Leslie Greif, Adam Freeman, Adam Reed and Dan Farah under his Farah Films banner.
 
NEW SPRING & SUMMER PROGRAMMING PREMIERES

·         Thursday, May 9 at 10PM – “Small Town Security” Season 2
Produced by Left/Right Films (“This American Life,” “Boomtown,” “Mob Wives”); Executive Producers: Ken Druckerman and Banks Tarver
 
“Small Town Security” explores the inner workings of a small, family-run security and private investigation company in Ringgold, Georgia called JJK Security. The series returns for a second season of straight-up and serious security work, love triangles with a twist, sarcasm served over easy, and a generous helping of stranger-than-fiction scatological humor that will draw you in and make you look away, all at the same time.  Season one premiered in July 2012 to critical acclaim, with USA Today hailing it as a reality show that “manages to defy the stereotype” and the Associated Press saying it “bristles with authenticity even as it feels deliriously (and sometimes hilariously) hyper-real with its larger-than-life characters.”
 
The season two premiere will be preceded by a marathon of all eight episodes from season one beginning at 6PM.
 
·         Thursday, May 23 at 9PM – “Showville”
Produced by Storyvision Entertainment and distributed by Sony Pictures Television; Executive Producer: Laurie Girion (“Cheerleader Nation,” “Welcome to Sweetie Pies”)
 
Fame meets Main on AMC’s new unscripted competition series, “Showville.”  The series centers around a small town talent show featuring local acts, who get the chance of a lifetime to be in the spotlight.  “Showville” is a celebration of performing, and a fond, funny look at the lives, workplaces and families of these acts and what happens to them when Hollywood comes to town.  Each week, a one-hour episode of “Showville” touches down in a quintessentially American small town and puts together a talent show in a mere four days.
 
·         Sunday, August 11 at 9PM – “Breaking Bad” kicks off its final eight episodes
Produced by Sony Pictures Television; Creator and Executive Producer: Vince Gilligan; Executive Producer: Mark Johnson (Gran Via); Executive Producer: Michelle MacLaren
 
“Breaking Bad” has garnered seven Primetime Emmy® Award wins and a Peabody, and been named to the American Film Institute’s (AFI) list of the “Top 10 Programs of the Year” (2008, 2010, 2011, 2012). The explosive series that The Hollywood Reporter called “one of the greatest dramas in TV history,” returned to AMC for the first part of its final season on July 15, 2012 with its most watched episode to date with 2.9 million viewers (up 14% over the season four premiere). “Breaking Bad” stars three-time Emmy® Award-winner Bryan Cranston; two-time Emmy® winner Aaron Paul; Anna Gunn; Dean Norris; Betsy Brandt; RJ Mitte and Bob Odenkirk.
 
·         Sunday, August 11 at 10PM – “Low Winter Sun”
Co-production from Endemol Studios and AMC Studios; Executive Producer and Writer: Chris Mundy (“Criminal Minds,” “Cold Case”)
 
Starring Mark Strong (Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy, Zero Dark Thirty) and Lennie James (“The Walking Dead,” “Jericho,” Snatch), “Low Winter Sun” is a contemporary story of murder, deception, revenge and corruption in a world where the line between cops and criminals is blurred. The series begins with the murder of a cop by a fellow Detroit detective. Seemingly the perfect crime, in reality the murder activates forces that will forever alter the detective’s life, and pull him into the heart of the Detroit underworld. The ten-episode series is based on the 2006 award-winning British two-part mini-series of the same name written by Simon Donald and produced by Tiger Aspect Productions (an Endemol Company).
 
·         Thursday, August 15 at 9PM – “Owner’s Manual”
Produced by Asylum Entertainment (“The Kennedys,” “Addicted,” “The Locator”); Executive Producers: Steve Michaels, Jonathan Koch and Alex Piper
 
“Owner’s Manual” will test one of the most common divides among man – those who read the owner’s manual and those who do not.  Representing each side of this divide, Ed Sanders (“Extreme Makeover: Home Edition”) and Marcus Hunt (HGTV’s “Hammer Heads”) are put to the test in a weekly challenge where they attempt to operate today’s most advanced, dangerous and powerful machinery and technology – from a stunt plane to an off-road racing car to a locomotive, and more. With opposing points of view and conflicting methods of practice — one man works strictly from the rule book, while the other uses only his instincts — the real test will be how this “everyman” duo can collaborate to accomplish their challenge.
 
The series premiere will feature two new episodes, back-to-back, from 9-10pm, with one new episode and one repeat episode airing from 9-10pm each week thereafter.
 
·         Thursday, August 15 at 10PM – “The Pitch”
Produced by All3Media America (“Undercover Boss”); Executive Producers: Eli Holzman, Stephen Lambert, Aaron Saidman and Domini Hoffman
 
“The Pitch” chronicles numerous interesting characters as they prepare unique creative campaigns, with big personal stakes, at their advertising agencies to try and win a major new piece of business. The show focuses on the characters who are putting their best work forward and shows the personal stakes involved in winning each client.  “The Pitch” first premiered on AMC in April 2012 and earned a Critic’s Choice nomination for Best Reality Series – Competition.
 
As previously announced, the network will also debut the third seasons of its scripted dramas “The Killing,” which kicks off with a special two-hour premiere on Sunday, June 2 at 8PM and “Hell on Wheels” on Saturday, August 3 at 9PM.  Following its two-hour premiere, “The Killing” will return to its regular time on Sundays at 9pm. 
 
 
SERIES RENEWALS

·         “Talking Dead” renewed for a third season
Produced by: Embassy Row; Executive Producers: Michael Davies and Jen Kelly
 
AMC’s live after show, hosted by Chris Hardwick (Nerdist; G4), serves as a platform for discussion of the network’s hit series “The Walking Dead.”
 
·         “Comic Book Men” renewed for a third season
Produced by Original Media (“LA Ink,” “Storm Chasers,” “Swamp People”); Executive Producers: Kevin Smith (Clerks, Chasing Amy), Charlie Corwin, Elyse Seiden (Red State) and Brian Nashel
 
The series follows the crew of fan boys from Kevin Smith’s iconic comic shop, Jay and Silent Bob’s Secret Stash, as they geek-out over rare memorabilia and discover treasures of the comic collecting world.
 
·         “Freakshow” renewed for a second season
Produced by Endemol USA; Executive Producers:R. Greg Johnston and Todd Ray
 
“Freakshow” follows Todd Ray’s quirky family business — the Venice Beach Freakshow. Leaving behind a successful career in the music industry, Todd realized his true passion: bringing together all things bizarre and unique, including two-headed animals, strange artifacts, eccentric performers and human wonders.
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #58 on: 19 April, 2013., 16:06:15 CEST »
As the broadcast networks are moving onto screening their pilots for next season, Amazon Studios too is kicking off its pilot screening process. But unlike the traditional TV networks’ pilot screenings, which are shredded in secrecy, Amazon brass are doing theirs out in the open. The company this morning has unveiled its inaugural slate of 14 pilots — eight comedies and six kids shows. All are made available for free on Amazon Instant Video, LOVEFiLM UK and LOVEFiLM Germany. Viewers are being invited to watch the pilots and review them on the site.

There will be “a lot of data points” in Amazon’s decision-making process as to which pilots will be picked up to series,” said Amazon Studios director Roy Price. Amazon will count how many people watched each pilot, how many watched each pilot from start to finish and how many shared it on social media. Additionally, the company will evaluate feedback from an online panel recruited on Amazon preview as well as traditional offline focus groups.

The analysis will be both quantitative and qualitative. For instance, a pilot that gets a lot of “likes” but the vast majority of people like it, don’t love it, won’t score as high as a pilot that has fewer fans but they all love it as passionate fan base is key to the success of online series. Amazon brass have not decided yet how many half-hour pilots they will pick up to series, with the orders likely to be around 13-episode each. The launch date for Amazon’s first original scripted series also is TBD. Meanwhile, the company has quietly started to develop drama series to add to its portfolio of comedy and kids programs.

Amazon’s comedy pilots available for viewing as of today include Alpha House, starring John Goodman with cameos by Bill Murray and Stephen Colbert; musical Browsers starring Bebe Neuwirth; Onion News Empire, starring Jeffrey Tambor; Those Who Can’t, which was submitted though Amazon Studios’ Web site; Dark Minions, written by Big Bang Theory co-stars Kevin Sussman and John Ross Bowie; animated comedy Supanatural; Betas, starring Ed Begley Jr and Jon Daly; and Zombieland, based on the hit feature.


Koja je ovo revolucija televizije :D Za deset godina neće ni bit primetimea kakvog poznamo danas, uvjeren sam u to :zubo:
 

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Re: The 2013 May Upfronts
« Reply #59 on: 20 April, 2013., 16:39:04 CEST »
Ako nekog zanima... :D

It’s been more than a month since The Lying Game aired its second season finale and six months since the series wrapped production. But ABC Family is yet to make a decision on the future of the show based of Sara Shepard’s books. Complicating things is the fact that the options on the cast are up this week. I hear ABC Family asked The Lying Game producer Warner Horizon to extend the options on cast as the cable network wants to see how its summer series launch before making a decision on The Lying Game. That is easier said than done as the extension process involves a slew of actors with virtually no assurances that the extra hold will lead to a renewal. I hear all actors passed on Warner Horizon’s initial offer. I hear the efforts focused on the leads, with Alexandra Chando, now signed, and Blair Redford, who is in negotiations. The rest of the actors are in various stages of talks with the studios. I hear the hold is only until July, so ABC Family will have to make a decision shortly after its new and returning scripted series debut (between May 29 and June 11). Also unknown is the status is of Chuck Pratt who developed The Lying Game as serves as executive producer/showrunner. While the majority of the writers on the show have three-year deals, I hear Pratt’s contract was up at the end of Season 2. “Each of us will have to make some decisions in the event of a pick-up,” Pratt wrote in a email to the show’s crew. “I’m sure our circumstances at that time will affect our decision. Know this, though.  We all love this show, and if this is to be its last run, we want to be there. Once again, we wait…”

But as frustrating ABC Family’s silence has been for The Lying Game team, they are not alone. Also anxiously awaiting word on renewal is fellow bubble series Bunheads whose freshman season ended more than two months ago. ABC Family will likely make a decision on both series around the same time. While Amy Sherman Pallandino’s Bunheads has been garnering stronger critical notices, the two series have been on par in total viewers (1.7 million in Live+7), and The Lying Game has done better in the younger demos, 2.2 vs. 1.4 in F12-34 and 1.7 vs. 1.3 in F18-34.